[Rapzid]

Can confirm. Had a procedure (hernia repair) and at the time of setting it up my insurance was in flux. I asked for the cash price to move things along and was quoted just ~7k all up. Insurance ended up covering it but received one of those invoices were it starts at over 20k before the magic "discount" gets applied.

I have been assuming the magic discount is some sham the insurance companies push for to scare people into believing they would not get it if it weren't for the insurance.

It's BS IMHO to not be advertising the ACTUAL cash amounts they would quote somebody..