[throwaway3699]

My point is that the industry really hasn't moved on from the old LAMP stack if it's been replaced by a single company. When it truly comes down to it, the day-to-day tools are not ours if they aren't open.

And if deploying a lambda function on my own hardware is vastly more complex, then the tools haven't really changed, they just got outsourced.

There are a bunch of semi-standards like Serverless Framework and Knative, but nothing concrete.

[nl]

> And if deploying a lambda function on my own hardware is vastly more complex, then the tools haven't really changed, they just got outsourced.

Well... Yeah?

I came into web development in 97. Back then almost everything was on shared servers, so pretty much the same thing.

[nuclearnice3]

I agree the tools got outsourced.

I also agree there are big chunks of LAMP under the covers of running an AWS Lambda. So, in that sense, we haven't "moved on" from the old LAMP stack.

I also agree the tools are "not ours" if they aren't open. They do useful things. It's a tradeoff.