[JustFinishedBSG]

> To the people moaning about Electron apps... you're not the market. To the people moaning about $100 price... you're not the market. To the people moaning about Mac-only... you're not the market. To the people who missed the value-prop COMPLETELY and think some free taskbar widget is the whole idea... you're not the market.

Then who's the market? Because it's obviously not us and I think the (accepts Electrons) ∩ (uses mac os) ∩ (pays for expensive apps) population is VERY restricted.

And why post it here if we are not the market?

> missed the value-prop COMPLETELY

The idea of "value proposition" is so absolutely inane. If people were always paying for a what a tool is "worth" in term of revenues then working would be useless as you would be spending as much on your tools as to what they bring.

Do you value Linux at >50K a year? Would you pay 5000$ a month to use an OS? No? Well that's weird because that seems in line with its "value proposition".

> I'd like to introduce to a little startup/email client called Superhuman. I'm sure these naysayers were posting all these negative hot takes on that too. And the naysayers were wrong then. Because they aren't the market.

Then stop advertising this type of apps here.

[oefrha]

> (accepts Electrons) ∩ ...

Outside of a small vocal group of people mostly concentrated on HN and prone to give crappy hot takes, practically everyone in the world "accepts Electrons".

[zapzupnz]

Practically everyone accepts them where there is no better solution.

And usually there is no better solution because third party integrations to online services (think Stack, Discord, etc.) are limited or aren’t kept up-to-date with official apps.

Or, in Discord’s case, are outright against the ToS and not worth people’s bother.

[gjulianm]

> Then who's the market? Because it's obviously not us and I think the (accepts Electrons) ∩ (uses mac os) ∩ (pays for expensive apps) population is VERY restricted.

The market is people that have a lot of meetings and invest a lot of time in preparing/documenting them.

By the way, you are talking as if the set of people who accept electron apps and pay for expensive apps is a fixed one. It's a tradeoff. It the app is good enough, people won't care that it's Electron or that it's expensive (and, for the record, few people care about Electron apps).

> The idea of "value proposition" is so absolutely inane.

The value proposition of something is not the price, but what it gives to the user.

> you would be spending as much on your tools as to what they bring.

The value you offer is the value offered by your tools plus the value you add by working with them.

[roberttod]

The hackernews community has a broader range of thought than you give it credit for - not everyone is against electron apps. The top comment on this post is supporting that, and everyone who +1'd it.

[motoxpro]

pays for expensive apps: 100s of millions of people uses mac os: 100s of millions knows what electron is: 431,882 weekly downloads.

I'm making a bit of a joke here, but the market is plenty huge for this app. Also, not all of Hackernews is developers who have opinions on electron. e.g. Me.