[afavour]

I'd maybe agree that they occupy similar spaces in their respective media landscapes, though Bee being a comedian already makes her a different proposition. But either way I wouldn't say they are the exact same thing. An example: recently Tucker Carlson recently took time in an episode to detail an entirely unfounded conspiracy theory that the FBI was behind the January 6th Capitol attacks. It was completely and utterly false, and easily proven as such. But he has not (to date) admitted that.

If there are examples of this level of disinformation coming from Samantha Bee and/or Joy Reid I'd be interested to see them.

[adamiscool8]

Joy Reid regularly does the same. [0][1][2]

[0] https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/06/24/joy_reid_...

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/joy-reid-fact-check-tapper-1546432

[2] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/4/27/17286392/j...

[philwelch]

> Bee being a comedian already makes her a different proposition

That's a bit of a cop-out in some ways, especially depending on how it's meant.

If it's meant to indicate that Samantha Bee uses humor, that's fine. But by the same token, Rush Limbaugh used humor. Ben Shapiro and Stephen Crowder use humor. None of those people do a show with their primary intention being to get a laugh, though. They do a show with their primary intention being to express a point of view, and if they can use humor to do that, all the better.

If it's meant to indicate that we shouldn't take Samantha Bee too seriously, don't worry; I don't. I also don't take Rachel Maddow or Tucker Carlson too seriously, either.

But usually, it's meant to deflect criticism. Jon Stewart did the same thing. He would make serious criticisms of commentators (including a much younger Tucker Carlson) as if he was trying to be taken seriously, but as soon as anyone criticized him he would immediately fall back to, "I'm a comedian!"

To his credit though, John Oliver (who was on the Daily Show along with Samantha Bee and Stephen Colbert back in the day) doesn't seem to hide behind the "I'm a comedian" shield anymore.