[breitling]

Unfortunately, this seems to be the new norm.

Even in Canada, we are breaking records for heat. Temperatures have reached 49 C / 120 F

Despite that, I believe Canada will be a major recipient of these climate refugees when places just get too hot to live in.

That'll also be an option reserved for the privileged.

[lmilcin]

The problem is that you can't easily move hundreds of millions of people.

When the weather becomes lethal, these people are going to die.

The only realistic solution is building infrastructure to let people live through the worst of the weather.

If it is as bad as it is described in the article, I worry about long term prospects of stable economy and progress, what with people occupied mostly with trying to survive another hellish day.

[Fricken]

I think if hundreds of millions of people were faced with unliveable conditions, they would be strongly incentivized to move themselves. Also, it would more likely be a migration that plays out over the span of, say, a generation.

In 2020 it was estimated that 55 million people were displaced due to climate and weather events, more than 3 times the number displaced by conflict and violence. So the mass migration is already well under way.

[lmilcin]

I think you do not understand.

When a heat wave comes the people will not be able to "move" themselves.

Most of these people don't have means to do so in best of times.

[Fricken]

Most people have feet. They move by putting one foot in front of the other. People have travelled all over the world using this ancient technique.

[spodek]

If by norm you mean the slope, yes. If you meant the y intercept, no. Soon it will be hotter. In Karachi and where you live too.

To change the slope, exactly two things work: reducing our consumption and reducing our birth rate. Mechai Viravaidya in Thailand showed how to reduce birth rate in the opposite of China's One Child policy or eugenics -- that is, voluntary, noncoercive, even fun -- as did Costa Rica, Iran, and several other countries. Most Americans can improve their quality of life by lowering consumption. I reduced mine over 90% with just life improvements. I estimate most Americans can reduce theirs 80% or more without sacrifice, just improvements. The most polluting can probably reduce theirs 99%.

Systemic change begins with personal transformation. Government and corporations will follow individual action, as they historically have. Personal transformation enables us to lead others. Leading others has the biggest effect because it multiplies.

[zohch]

> Despite that, I believe Canada will be a major recipient of these climate refugees when places just get too hot to live in.

In what sense would these people be climate refugees rather than infrastructure refugees? What percentage of Canada's population can survive in Canada without canada's infrastructure ?

If you read the article, a major problem the author is complaining about is the infrastructure:

> The electricity problems make it worse. The load-shedding comes during summer months and, these days, often falls in Ramadan, when people can’t drink water.

[ant6n]

I used to think that climate change won’t be so bad for the northern countries, as they are colder anyway, with perhaps some more extreme weather. Now it seems more and more that all countries will be affected. Even northern ones, with occasional crazy heat waves.

In BC, Canada the Heat record was broken by almost 5C.