[sofixa]

> Mindlessly asking for a source on every claim or observation is one of the silliest and most annoying things people on HN tend to do. It’s an original observation, not some shit I regurgitated from a book. You’d swear 90% of the people here thought you weren’t allowed to have a thought unless you published it in an academic journal

As you might have noticed from the rest of my answer, i disagree with your observation, hence the question about sources or any extra information to help me understand how you got there.

So, some of the original and most popular welfare states - Imperial Germany, post-wars UK disagree with your observation.