[ArkanExplorer]

FSD is going to need more than just automakers - it will need roadbuilders.

Specifically, building the roads, signs, and traffic lights to be machine-readable, not just human readable.

Imagine if we could recreate the road network in software, with realtime status of traffic lights. There would be much less reliance on cameras and image recognition.

This probably already occurs in some control centre somewhere, it just needs to be made available over the air for vehicles to access.

[Jasper_]

Yeah. We should build lots of enhanced roads. Add in automatic signaling so that the cars know all of the intersections and crossings. Oh, and let's have some bars that come down so that pedestrians don't walk around the path of the cars. And maybe even add little walls around done edges so the cars can't veer off to where there isn't any smart road infrastructure. And since all of this is expensive, let's try and recoup the costs by making the cars much, much bigger and carry lots of people.

[DemocracyFTW]

You mean like ... railways? only much more expensive and with much more concrete covering the soil?

[coldtea]

Like railways, but that need to be built all around the place, disturbing (or well, continuing the disturbance) of the landscape, having us build our lifestyles around them (like hour+ long commutes and suburbs with no communal center), and for vehicles that need expensive battery infrastructure from non-renewable materials, and that usually catter to 1 person.

[jfengel]

Roads, signs, and traffic lights are all pretty standardized. They're not the hard part.

The hard part is road conditions, which can't be standardized unless you completely separate them from humanity. No human drivers, no people walking in the street. Also no trees, no weather, and no potholes.

The hard problems are all AI-hard. Compared to those, deciphering the standardized parts with machine vision is already long since solved.

I personally think that humans are already intensely bad drivers, easily distracted and unreliable. I'd replace them with AI drivers right now, using existing tech, and the net number of deaths would go down. (It's tens of thousands per year in the US, and that's been falling only because the passengers have become better protected.)

[HellDunkel]

Actually it doesnt need any of the above, or if it does it cannot be called full SELF DRIVING.