[pepperberg]

"The disabled community doesn’t want to drive gas-burning cars while everyone else zips around in zero-emission vehicles"

I do not understand this craze for EVs. The German Fraunhofer ISI found evidence [1] that it might take up to 93,000 miles / 150,000km until you hit a break even point with regards to emissions (58 kWh; compared to Diesel).

Is that also a factor in most buyer's decisions or is it just about the feeling of "zipping around" in a EV?

[1] https://www.isi.fraunhofer.de/content/dam/isi/dokumente/sust...

[felixlechat]

EVs CO2 emmissions depends of the carbon intensity of electricity consumed. So that is true that Germany with now 323gCO₂eq/kWh has a higher break even. But if you take the same data for exemple in France where electricity is much less carbon intensive, (now 32gCO₂eq/kWh), break even is as low as 15000km for an EV. Germany should just emit less carbon for electricity generation.

[1] https://www.electricitymap.org/zone/DE

[2] https://ec.europa.eu/clima/sites/clima/files/transport/vehic...

[pepperberg]

Those are really valuable resources, thank you!

Although France's electricity mix is exceptionally low, I'm surprised to see that the EU average (438gCO₂eq/kWh) is even higher than in Germany ([2], page 74).

In the US, it's over 600gCO₂eq/kWh, in China even 1,000gCO₂eq/kWh (1.3 million EVs were sold in China in 2020).