[tootie]

I don't think there are actually any studies cited for any of those. In fact, it's well known that local gun laws are nearly useless. NYC makes it nearly impossible to buy a gun but they are easily bought in bulk an hour or two drive in any direction.

Immigrant policy is mostly based on humanitarian grounds. But I'd still be surprised if it's actually a major driver of crime. Violent crime in higher nationwide than every developed nation by a huge margin. Our lack of healthcare, for-profit opioid sales and the endless flow of firearms are the things I'd point to.

[desine]

I don't feel the need to deport illegal immigrants who don't commit violent crime. However SF doesn't allow ICE to arrest/serve warrants, even if the person in question has drug charges, violent crime charges, etc. In a city that clearly has taxpaying residents unhappy with the level of crime, they're throwing away free federal resources to deal with those issues. Even if it's not a driving factor, it's a symptom of a law enforcement philosophy that doesn't inspire confidence.

[tootie]

AFAIK they do allow enforcement of criminal warrants for anything violent. They also don't and can't prevent federal agents from doing anything. They just don't actively cooperate or enforce immigration law with their own police. Also worth noting that they adopted sanctuary status in 1989 which preceded their massive rise in prosperity. It seems unlikely to be a factor in problems of the last 5 years.

[desine]

News article: https://dailycaller.com/2020/02/19/san-francisco-not-coopera...

The city has a "rapid response" hotline you can call if you see any ICE agents in the city. I'm not sure what their response is. But they definitely don't work with the agency

[tootie]

That headline is exactly what I said. SFPD will not enforce federal warrants for simple immigration violations.

They absolutely will enforce warrants for serious crimes. Nor will they prevent federal agents from operating in the city. The rapid response hotline is a private non-profit and not run by the city.

I suggest not relying on conservative propaganda outlets like Daily Caller for your information.

[desine]

Quote from the article:

>Namely, his department will not honor immigration detainers lodged by federal agents. If an illegal alien in San Francisco is placed into local custody for an unrelated crime, and ICE asks that the individual be transferred into the agency’s custody, that request will simply be ignored.

I am saying they will not deport violent criminals who are also here illegally. The article supports my statement. Combined with SF's lenient catch and release programs, this by default means they're allowing violent criminals to stay in the area, even when they have the federal resources to make the population safer.

[emercom]

I'm assuming you know that site was founded by Tucker Carlson? He might have an interest in making "liberal" cities and populations look as bad and scary as possible, even if it means writing outright lies. You should try to find a more reputable source.

[desine]

Most mainstream news sites have a very clear agenda of making liberal policies and politicians looking better than they actually are. The quality of news media (on both sides of the aisle) has declined drastically in the past several years, and the number of actually center sources has dropped to near zero.

If you can refute the contents of the article with something more tangible than disliking the founder, I'll give it a fair read. I think if this were outright lies, there would be some pushback from the city. You're making big claims here.

[akomtu]

Here's stats on violent crime in the US:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-...