[Justin_K]

There has already been extensive spending in these areas and what do we have to show for it?

EDIT: While there's many factors that drive crime, crime was lower before the defund movements.

[techrat]

https://citymonitor.ai/government/the-reality-of-us-city-bud...

Compare with:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/19/alexandria-k...

[ceejayoz]

Does this logic apply to policing, too?

> crime was lower before the defund movements

Remind me, did anything else happen in 2020 that might have had an impact on crime?

[decremental]

Good point. The rioting encouraged by politicians and the media happened in 2020.

[ceejayoz]

Anything else happen that year?

[slipframe]

Instead of being passive aggressive with this psuedo-scoratic bullshit, why don't you just say outright what you mean? You're talking about covid.

A global pandemic is a shitty excuse for these hyper-local phenomena. It's not covid; it's the voting public of San Francisco (and two or three other west coast cities) and the disastrous politicians they elect.

[ceejayoz]

The crime spike @Justin_K alluded to was national, not hyper-local.

https://www.vox.com/22344713/murder-violent-crime-spike-surg...