[finnn]

signal-cli uses a clearly identifiable user agent [0] that could easily be blocked if Signal wanted to. signal-cli could escalate by trying to evade that kind of a block, but as it stands signal-cli has been operating without trouble for several years.

I meant they may ask some clients not to use their servers, but they don't have any enforcement mechanism in place beyond asking them to stop on github.

[0] https://github.com/AsamK/signal-cli/blob/05abb3f9f6294677d2d...

[gnull]

They can apply measures to the users. They are not doing it right now, but they could suddenly start. By the discussion on some reddit threads [1], this moxie guy looks sketchy to say the least.

But I support the devs who work on alternative clients. The official Electron app is just bad, especially on Wayland. Hope signal-cli will keep working.

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/mp2j0j/starting_a_na...

[icelancer]

> this moxie guy

Most people here who are interested in privacy know who "this Moxie guy" is.

[lmm]

Isn't he deliberately pseudonymous?

[cpach]

His civil name is displayed right on the Wikipedia article about him. So not exactly secret.

[finnn]

Sorry what am I looking for in this 200 comment reddit thread? I don't see any comments from moxie himself, just a lot of other people claiming to know what moxie wants. Are there reports of specific issues with 3rd party clients or comments from a Signal employee or something?

[gnull]

You are looking for links to what moxie said and people's experiences of interacting with him.

The links to LibreSignal (already mentioned here) and Wire stories summarize most of what I was pointing at: https://github.com/LibreSignal/LibreSignal/issues/37#issueco... https://medium.com/@wireapp/axolotl-and-proteus-788519b186a7

[finnn]

I'm looking for people's experience interacting with the Signal server, not moxie. We're talking about if the server enforces any kind of client restrictions.

I haven't looked super deep, but to the best of my knowledge that's not something that happens really. I looked through that reddit thread (thanks for that BTW, whisperfish seems interesting) and skimmed over that enormous GitHub thread, but I couldn't find much in the way of people actually experiencing issues interacting with the Signal server. Again, would appreciate it if you could link me to such a thing. As I mentioned elsewhere, I maintain an unofficial signal client and I try to be aware of these sort of things.

[monocasa]

moxie views the servers as his, to change policy wise as he sees fit. I'm not sure you can separate the two practically.

[finnn]

We know the policy, no one is confused about the policy, all 3rd party clients violate the policy.

Is the policy enforced? I've seen no evidence of it.

[Fnoord]

If it'd be enforced, we'd see a cat and mouse game of forks spoofing their user agent, and who knows what else.