[sleepybrett]

When we pushed a bunch of teams at a large retailer from ec2 to kubernetes in ec2 (not eks) we reduced overall cloud spend by ~30%.

It's only unpredictable and unquantifiable if you don't look at it. Is the problem that they don't have the right tools to look at it yet?

[twalla]

The flip side of this is I was able to reduce an employers cloud spend by 80 percent by just _fixing_ the mistakes they made when migrating to kubernetes. We were still on k8s afterwards, its just that the first pass made a bunch naive assumptions and poor optimizations.