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by btrfsck 1811 days ago
The best solution for my own self and family is to be part of a system where we all agree to take basic precautions to safeguard the more vulnerable who cannot.

If everyone who can get vaccinated does, then it fundamentally changes how dangerous the world is for those who are immunocompromised, or are too young to receive the vaccine.

I wish that the number of people too selfish or foolish to receive the vaccine was small enough that we could protect them with herd immunity as well, but given the area around me seems to be stalling out at about 70% vaccinated, it is clear that we cannot.

Being anti-vaccination or anti-medicine seems particularly foolish to me. Has anything else we've ever done in all of history come close to the positive humanitarian impact that the development of vaccines has? Aside, perhaps, from the development of antibiotics or sanitation or irrigation?

Being able to vaccinate ourselves has to be one of the major legs up we've developed as a species in general. And people are choosing to discard it. I find it deeply frustrating.

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> Has anything else we've ever done in all of history come close to the positive humanitarian impact that the development of vaccines has? Aside, perhaps, from the development of antibiotics or sanitation or irrigation?

> Being able to vaccinate ourselves has to be one of the major legs up we've developed as a species in general. And people are choosing to discard it. I find it deeply frustrating.

I think along similar lines and I share your frustration.

Other creatures advantage themselves through brute strength, or flight, or some other physical characteristics. But Man is special: Man's advantage is his brain. Our unique ability to think; to reason; to read, write, and remember; to explore the rules of the universe gives us the prerogative to understand and alter our environment.

All of those achievements you mention are expressions of Man's ability to apply his intellect to alter his condition in his environment. Here, with these vaccines, we have a nearly pure example of the fundamental advantage we humans have against a new unthinking, uncaring, endemic adversary of all humanity.

We have done the hard work. We have used our advantage, endowed by our Creator, to build the weapons that will defeat this new enemy. Now our biggest obstacle to final victory is not the virus itself--it's other humans.

It's deeply, deeply frustrating.

It is not anti-vaccination or anti-medicine to say that it's not someone's business to verify anything. People can go about their own business in the form of a vaccination, a mask, staying at home, or all three until the pandemic is over. It's not someone else's business. That's just how it is in the States, sorry but not sorry. You know that Florida has been back to normal for a long time and covid cases have been consistently declining there? And other states too. Without any such expectations around nosey moral busybodies trying to get people's personal information for "verification"
If Florida was its own country they would all be dead by now. Given that we know they falsified their numbers how can we draw any conclusions from them?
What an illogical thing to say. Florida is its own state - are they all dead? No. And I have no good reason to suspect that Florida or Texas or etc are actually fudging their numbers to hide a negative trend. Too conspiratorial for me to just believe that.