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by hutzlibu 1816 days ago
"The reason "emphasising importance of race" happens is because there's no chance of avoiding or preventing these situations if we pretend/hope that they don't happen."

How can we move past the racial thing, when we focus so much of racial things?

I think it just reinforces the racial thinking, when with every decision concerning other people, the race factor has to be taken into account.

I want to treat humans as humans and this is my solution towards a world without racism. I don't want to have to be nicer to a person because he or she is of black skin color. Or give special reasons in case of other skincolor, why this person did not qualify for a job. Or actually having to employ people because of their skin color. That would be racism to me, even if it might be well intentioned one.

I do not think there is such a thing as "positive discrimination". Discrimination remains discrimination.

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I would ask when you ignore a problem does it go away? In my experience the answer is always no. You have to face a problem head on. The fact of the matter is people still experience racism all the time to this day.

No one should be asking you to hire someone simply because they’re of a different skin color. Most of the time in my experience people ask you to be more aware of you and how you feel, and to ask yourself am I doing this perhaps because of some unconscious bias I have?

"I would ask when you ignore a problem does it go away?"

Where did I say, I am ignoring it? For personal reasons, I am very aware it exists.

I said my personal solution is simply to not treat people different based on race. I rather change the world by giving a good example, than trying to impose my fix onto the world.

"No one should be asking you to hire someone simply because they’re of a different skin color. "

But people are promoting the idea to push positive discrimination - meaning exactly this, employing persons based on their skin color to meet a percentage of minorities - and not on their qualifications. And I believe this is very wrong and not helping the cause.

> No one should be asking you to hire someone simply because they’re of a different skin color.

this is very much what is happening. There are quotas that need to be filled, and it is tied to performance numbers too.

Also, not just for race, for all diversity - like gender, etc.

> I want to treat humans as humans and this is my solution towards a world without racism. I don't want to have to be nicer to a person because he or she is of black skin color. Or give special reasons in case of other skincolor, why this person did not qualify for a job. Or actually having to employ people because of their skin color. That would be racism to me, even if it might be well intentioned one.

But right now, you actually object to people saying "racism exists and affects how things turn out".

No, I object to people trying to fix racism by wanting to implement laws, that in fact are cementing racism.
Except that comment you are responding to does not call for any laws. Neither thread nor original article is not about implementing any laws.

Your own comment is literally against talking about race or focusing on it. While it does have final note about positive discrimination, the majority is not about positive discrimination.

"Except that comment you are responding to does not call for any laws. "

The applied context in this thread, does.

"The current trend among the woke crowd seems to be emphasizing importance of race, rather than trying to get past it."

I mean why are there laws getting implemented against racism in the shape of "positive discrimination" if various activists would not support it?