[rolph]

how about

1) if you want a challenging game sign into normal game server

2) i you want a cheat game sign into cheat server

3) if you cheat on a normal server, you are banned for life no questions asked from ever using a non cheat game server

[josephcsible]

> banned for life no questions asked

If a 13-year-old cheats at a game, do you really think they should still be banned when they're 30? Permanent punishments for things people did as minors are essentially unheard of for anything less serious than murder or rape.

[sodality2]

HVH servers exist for CSGO, which are hack vs hack. It's a great alternative. The problem is Steam accounts can be generated en masse and CSGO is free.

Or accounts with the Prime upgrade that makes cheaters less common are often stolen ("cracked primes") and sold to cheaters for a few bucks.