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by nunodonato 1822 days ago
How about a middle ground? I've been looking into the new generation of eink devices that are great for notetaking. Remarkable etc Best of both worlds and no more dead trees
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How many notes do you actually take? It takes about 113kg co2 to produce an iPad[1] and other tablets may produce more as much as 200kg. That's roughly equivalent to the emissions from producing 2000-6000 sheets of paper [2].

But we are not including the running electricity emissions of of the Remarkable, plus the co2 emissions of their cloud service. Plus electronics produce a lot dirtier pollution on disposal than paper.

I taught 4 courses this year, plus research work. And I think I got through about 500 sheets of notes. If I had a Remarkable, it would maybe last 4-5 years. I think lifetime pollution from a tablet like Remarkable is always going to be more than from just using paper.

[1] https://newzik.com/blog/ipad-environmental-report/

[2] https://www.goodenergy.co.uk/good-stats-on-carbon-saving/

Plus paper is recyclable
I have one. You still can’t quickly flick back onto last week’s notes, and object permanence issues remain. Will never be the same as paper.

A better middle ground is probably one of those smart pens that automatically digitizes your scribbles, while you’re still using a paper notebook.

While I love my Remarkable 2 for taking notes, journaling, drawing and sharing/exporting the results, it lacks search/discoverability/navigation.

In a physical notebook it’s trivial to flip back a few pages to recall a note from last week. On remarkable that takes a lot more time, and the time cost is paid twice, once for finding the old note, and a second time to get back to the page I was writing. (Imagine working in a single browser window fullscreen without tabs).

I’m still looking for an optimal flow. And I’m gravitating towards something that can ingest remarkable pages, perform OCR and categorise/index the results.

>In a physical notebook it’s trivial to flip back a few pages to recall a note from last week. On remarkable that takes a lot more time, and the time cost is paid twice, once for finding the old note, and a second time to get back to the page I was writing.

Shelved because I realized 1) This will be much more comfortable on forthcoming (cheaper) AR glasses than on one's phone, and 2) I still don't know how to code, but I imagine that this particular UX problem will shortly be one that is no longer insurmountable.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CFcOov1FV6G/

Onyx boox allows split screen
Onyx Boox is a GPL offender though with some other sketchy call-home activity going on. This is a dealbreaker for me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onyx_Boox/comments/hsn7kx/onyx_usin...

Eww, I hadn’t seen that. That’s a hard no for me, too.
Same here. The main benefits to me would be the ability to search and extract notes more easily.

Currently using a pen and paper system that's not dissimilar to bullet-journaling, but adapted to play nicer with unescapable digital calendars etc.

> no more dead trees

Doesn't paper comes mostly from managed forests? Or maybe you attach a higher value to the life of trees than most people? (which is fine, just surprising to me)