[0xy]

It's bothersome that you don't admit that your false statement was false and continue to double down with irrelevant discussion. Telegram has E2EE therefore you are wrong.

"Telegram is not E2EE" is factually incorrect.

WhatsApp has E2EE however it ships your private keys to cloud storage by default. So it's even less secure than Telegram.

[AegirLeet]

If you install Telegram and message someone, your message is not E2EE. That falls under "not E2EE" in my book.

[allarm]

You should probably adjust your book because not having e2ee and not having e2ee by default are two different things.