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by mnouquet 1825 days ago
This might have been the case maybe 30 years ago, today's mentality is really all about submission to power, their power. If they say "put a hand on your stomach, one on your head, and turn from right to left singing the International on a single hand", you better do it, or fear being cancelled.
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zero_deg_kevin 1825 days ago
I’m not accepting your assertion as fact. There are currently multiple civil rights movements facing organized conservative resistance.

You can invent whatever moralizing obligation you want, but I don’t think it’s reasonable expect an organized effort from the {$outgroup} community to defend the rights rights of the people who designated them the outgroup.

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mnouquet 1825 days ago
Existence of such groups is not your original assertion. You stated:

> People are disinclined to support your rights if they see you as advocating against theirs.

By that argument, the Libertarians would be loved by everybody, but they aren't, because it's no longer a discussion on ethics, it's a fight over holly dogma. The ACLU will no longer support people on the Right in the name of Free Speech. Lines in the sand have been dug by the left, and they no longer crosses them. The right, (ie. the MSM's fascist) however do it all the time because they are the most open ones. If you are a gay 1sh amendment absolutist, you aren't gay, you're just a nazi. The ancients Greeks are no longer the bases of our culture/civilization, they're esclavagist.

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mijoharas 1824 days ago
> The ACLU will no longer support people on the Right in the name of Free Speech.

This is false[0]. After that, we appear to be getting into Godwin's law territory, so I'm gonna leave it alone.

[0] https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/defending-speech-w...

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mnouquet 1824 days ago
Just because they take credit for what they did in the past doesn't mean it will happen again. When did the ACLU last take the KKK's defence ?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/06/us/aclu-free-speech.html

The ACLU actively advertised in the Kavanaugh nomination.

Then an ACLU trans lawyer stated: “Stopping the circulation of this book and these ideas is 100% a hill I will die on.”

Then in 2018 they covertly backed Stacey Abrams (democrat).

Then an ACLU editor wishes death on a republican senator.

and so on... The ACLU has very much been gangrened by the marxist.

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