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by nescioquid 1823 days ago
You seem to deny there is any propaganda or indoctrination happening in U.S. education.

A commenter asked what it would take to change your mind, and offers a hypothetical scenario as a test (which may have some basis in reality, but excludes that from consideration), and you refused to consider it.

Do you think there is any sort of evidence, if demonstrated adequately, that would change your mind? What sort of evidence would be sufficient?

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> You seem to deny there is any propaganda or indoctrination happening in U.S. education.

Heck no, everybody knows American schools have been indoctrinating kids into robber-baron capitalism, "Manifest Destiny" imperialism, trickle-down economics, Christianity and other stupid shit like that for ages.

Wait, what -- that wasn't the propaganda or indoctrination you meant?

I'm not defending myself against baseless allegations, if that's what you are seeking.

They made a claim, not me. Let's see some evidence or it's just, effectively, propaganda. Anybody can say anything without evidence.

You challenged the notion of "indoctrination and propaganda happening in US education" (from the parent comment). You simply made a counter-claim to the parent commenter, to the effect that you know none of your teachers ever presented opinion as truth.

Another commenter asks you whether, hypothetically, a certain kind of training were given to teachers would change your opinion.

Who is making a claim here?

Man, if you're trying to defend teachers, you're doing a sufficiently terrible job that I'd almost think you were deliberately strawmanning.

You've effectively responded to a hypothetical "if teachers were converted to propaganda machines, would that be propaganda" with evasion that makes you sound like you have something to hide.

It's interesting that people are taking the approach of attacking me personally, which violates HN's guidelines.

They made a claim of something happening in reality, not hypothetically.