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by throwaway292893 1818 days ago
DDG just uses Bing results. This solution is completely independent.

You may ask why that's needed, just recently DDG was censoring the "tank man" photo on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square because Bing was censoring it.

This new indexer is very much welcome and I hope it stays free of censorship from the CCP, marxists, and others.
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yepthatsreality 1818 days ago
Yes that much is clear, but DDG has a privacy bent to their engine too. It just seems like working with DDG to remove that fault would be beneficial to both parties.

If I recall, DDG chose to use Bing to remove Google from the equation but also prevent the need to reinvent the wheel.

Brave for all their technological progress and talk about improving the web, often seem to promote only themselves with their advancements. They aren’t required to share anything however. The parroting of bangs is just a bit hostile is all.

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throwaway292893 1818 days ago
Bing and thus DDG's index really isn't that good.

Is Microsoft an underdog now? Why do you consider them any better than Google, especially after the "tank man" fiasco?

I don't see why it's a bad thing to make your own thing or to only promote your own company.

Brave isn't reinventing the wheel either, they purchased & revived Tailcats from Cliqz (https://0x65.dev/)

The bang operators are a small feature that are easy to implement, nothing special. Taking inspiration and features from competitors is nothing new.

Even in this thread there was a user asking for them, saying they'd switch over if Brave implements them (they already have them obviously)

I don't even think DDG came up with them first...

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Dah00n 1818 days ago
>This solution is completely independent.

It is not. It is Cliqz tailcat plus Bing. Censorship from Bing will end up at brave too.

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pythux 1818 days ago
"Cliqz tailcat" is an independent index and we rely on third-parties like Bing for a small portion of requests where we are not confident enough (although we would be able to serve 99% of the requests, users expect the best quality). For the long answer you can read here: https://search-dev.brave.com/help/independence
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