[seanc]

I work in telecommunications, back in the 90's fibre optic transport for plain old telephone service. Think back to how reliable your phone was before VOIP.

Then we hired a guy from an Aerospace company and he thought we were a bunch of reckless cowboys who didn't care a thing about quality.

[EricE]

The first time we had a VOIP system going into a new building in the mid 2000's I went into one of the closets and just disconnected one of the pairs of a fiber pair.

The IP redundancy didn't work :p I forget what the excuse was; my position is stuff happens and when I break random connections in redundant PBX systems they still work. Ugh.