[aimkey]

>It seems really what you are saying is not that Tesla are charlatan but the whole industry is.

The entire industry has an air of charlatanism. Tesla is the biggest charlatan of the bunch. The LIDAR-using ventures at least have a snowball's chance in hell. Tesla has no chance with vision alone.

[cycrutchfield]

I would love to know what your credentials are that you can say this with such certainty

[xedeon]

Just the fact that this person created a throwaway account just to thrash talk, speak volumes.