[jolux]

I mean you said that behavior that offends is partially the fault of the person taking offense, I don’t understand how that’s not blaming the victim here. Having a thick skin is important but I question your priorities when your response to somebody not wanting to be woken up by a screaming phone call at 3am is “there’s no crying in baseball.”

[WalterBright]

> you said that behavior that offends is partially the fault of the person taking offense

I did not say that. Please read more carefully.

[jolux]

> It takes two to make an offense - one to give offense, the other to take offense. Don't take offense, and there is no offense.

What else does this mean?

[WalterBright]

It does not mean the offendee is responsible for the behavior of the offender.

It means the offendee is responsible for the offendee's reaction.

Very, very different.

[jolux]

That’s true, but something should also be done to correct the behavior of the offender, which is what I think most of this thread is talking about.

[WalterBright]

At least one poster in this thread has attempted to bully me. He failed - and not because anyone tried to correct his behavior. It's because his insults do not affect me.

[jolux]

There are multiple ways to stop people from being bullied and harassed. We shouldn’t leave it on everyone to defend themselves, but set baseline standards of acceptable behavior. This is uncontroversial as far as government in general is concerned. For whatever reason, people seem to get upset about it when organizations try to enforce standards that are more stringent than the law.