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Bug fixes in GNOME are driven by volunteers, so if no one shows up to fix them after years, they are probably low priority and don't affect many people compared to the effort that it takes to fix them. Sorry, I don't know what else can be done about that, besides putting more strain on already strained open source maintainers. I don't know what you mean peer pressure to be a GNOME app. The file chooser and color chooser are unlikely to be changed unless somebody with a lot of UI/UX design experience volunteers to work on them, and makes them better in a way that benefits all GTK apps. The bugs with flatpak integration should probably be reported if they aren't already, the issue may be that some flatpak packages need to update their SDK version so they get a bug fixed version of GTK. Regarding your last sentence, issues in GNOME's wayland implementation won't affect users of other desktops.

Does that help? I don't think those are issues where you're being controlled into an unfixable situation, so I can try to help offer some solutions.

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>if no one shows up to fix them after years

>volunteers to work on them

This discussion happens literally every week on reddit and other places. Same arguments and same conclusions from both "sides", not worth having it, nothing is gained.

>GNOME's wayland implementation won't affect users of other desktops.

Affects developers, and GTK itself when used. Or not if you don't think they are issues of course.

[zxzax]

>not worth having it, nothing is gained.

I agree, I've seen lots of open source projects get stuck and suffer from this issue where it's hard to get certain things done, it's hardly anything new, that's why I tend to focus on how to reach solutions to the problem. If you know someone who is capable of fixing these issues who needs some support, or if you have some technical insights here, let's talk about that. Otherwise, the issue is not one of being controlled -- the issue is actually because nobody has enough control to get the thing done. So let's see what we can do to give the right people a handle on the situation and empower them to do the right thing.

>Affects developers, and GTK itself when used.

I'm not sure what you mean, the developers of other wayland implementations don't have to worry about GNOME's implementation, unless they are aiming for feature parity. GTK can of course receive patches to support other implementations.