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by cmendel 1822 days ago
A large number of teachers need second jobs, that hardly strikes me as highly-paid especially as many(most?) teachers have master's degrees. Further, "summers off" is not really correct given curriculum development, PD, grading and the like which often extend far past the end of the semester.
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willcipriano 1822 days ago
Most teachers only have a bachelor's degree according to BLS, the same level of education required to be a detective. Most of my high school teachers used the same curriculum year after year, even including the USSR on maps they would hand out with instructions to ignore it handwritten on the top of the page. None did any grading over the summer as school was out and no work is being produced by students.
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sudosysgen 1822 days ago
Most teachers have a bachelors, most cops are not detectives.

I don't know about you but the curriculum absolutely wasn't the same each year with my teachers, it couldn't be.

Beyond that, overtime is paid for cops and unpaid for teachers.

It's true that they don't do much work over the summer, though they have to come in 2-3 weeks in the summer more than the students.

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willcipriano 1822 days ago
My point here is that groups in the US often say either teachers are underpaid and cops are overpaid or the other way around but a simple Google search shows they make about the same. I've never found someone making this claim that could tell me how much either made, just that it was either too much or too little.

If you feel teachers are undervalued, fine but teachers being underpaid and cops overpaid simply isn't logically consistent.

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kenjackson 1821 days ago
> If you feel teachers are undervalued, fine but teachers being underpaid and cops overpaid simply isn't logically consistent.

I'm not making this claim. But this statement has no logical problems, at least not as stated. Just because they might be paid a similar amount (or even if teachers are paid more) doesn't mean that the statement isn't logically consistent.

For example, Lebron James gets X and Nico Mannion gets paid Y (which is much less than X). Many still argue that Lebron is underpaid and Nico maybe overpaid. They deliver different value, and there's the notion of scarcity to provide the level service they provide.

If you think the average teacher (or some percentage of teachers) provides more value then the average cop, then you could make that statement and it not be logically inconsistent.

Unfortunately both have civil servant types of roles, which are hard to valuate in terms of financial impact.

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