[throwaway0a5e]

I was thinking more about the people driving $2k-$5k cars.

The last thing they need is their insurer jacking their rates because they're ending too many trips in bad zip codes.

You can "incentivize them onto public transit" all you want but most of those people would already be on public transit if there was even a $40/mo difference.

[anonymouse008]

> The last thing they need is their insurer jacking their rates because they're ending too many trips in bad zip codes.

Wait, the 'data' is based on ending a trip in a bad zip code!?

Man, and I'm over here thinking they map all the drivers over time and place to see who is normally on the road with each other, then basing those factors on courteousness and abilities with ambiguity.

[throwaway0a5e]

>Wait, the 'data' is based on ending a trip in a bad zip code!?

These companies use cell phone and/or OBD2 data. The only reason they haven't changed your rate based on the fact that you go to a strip club or shopping at Walmart is because there hasn't been a business justification for operating on that level of detail yet.

Insurers have long used proxies for wealth in order to set rates. If your zip code is the hood you're gonna pay premiums like everyone else in the hood. The only difference is that now they'll have more detail so the guy who registers his truck to his apartment in the hood but is on the road 5day/wk for work will pay based on two days of ending trips in the hood and five days of whatever motel he's in happens to be.

>Man, and I'm over here thinking they map all the drivers over time and place to see who is normally on the road with each other, then basing those factors on courteousness and abilities with ambiguity.

They might be doing that too if it happens to be worthwhile for their business.

[esel2k]

I have already such a tracker in my car that connects to the OBD2 and has its own 3G or 4G chip. I have an app and can track where my car is and could do some stats. Why did I get it for free? It was a joint deal between the insurance and the car garage and they probably can see where I drive - the garage wanted me to do all maintenance in their garage and the sensor/app company offered me to be my car insurance. So also the dealer or garage will be interested to know where you do your car maintenance. All in all I should probably take it out but I see a little benefit and do not care about that amount of data that I share (any cellphone manufacturer will have a million more data points).