(I work at Stripe.) The offerings are meant for different use-cases. Stripe Terminal’s great for developers looking to deploy in-person payments at tech-forward companies. Square’s great for coffee shops and other SMBs!
I'm guessing this means that the setup process of stripe terminal isn't to the point where a non-developer can plug it in and go. Square is great because anybody competent enough to install an app on their phone can use it
I’m not in the payment space, but it seems like it’s rapidly commodifying. The hardware to support mag stripe, contactless, and EMV isn’t terribly expensive per unit, and as long as there’s some bare minimum functionality, the competitive edge is the processing cost.
This seems less about stealing customers and more about keeping Stripe attractive to existing customers who might be continually evaluating other payment providers and their hardware offerings.
Long term, we likely end up like China with WeChat and Alipay, using apps and QR codes primarily for payments eventually. Venmo and PayPal support C2C and C2B payments with QR codes, Zelle is beta testing them currently.
Gravity Payments, First Data Merchant Services (the direct sales side of First Data), Vantiv/Mercury and numerous other platforms and platform resellers (Square & Stripe resell others processing platforms) have spent the last decade driving down prices.
Some wholesale contracts for certain ISO resellers are as low as 1 basis point (.01% of a transaction) and $0.01 for bank underwriting (where the bank holds the chargeback risk if the underwritten business goes bankrupt), with platform fees being as low as 3 basis points and $0.02 cents.
Stripe is probably doing the underwriting in house, hence why sometimes deposits of recent transactions to your bank account are delayed for a few days to a week.
In the merchant processing industry, there are frontends (where your transaction initially is routed for approval by Visa/MasterCard/American Express/Discover or by one of the Debit Networks) and backends (where the amounts of these transactions are debited between banks).
Stripe does use Wells Fargo for the backend settlement, they are one of the most popular acquiring banks on First Data (though many other banks can be used for underwriting risk and settlement of payments on First Data).
Interestingly Square basically created this category (the merchant aggregator) by somewhat secretly running all their early clients' payments through a single merchant account.
Don't you need to be a bank to settle funds from issuing banks? That's not what I interpreted you meaning when you said "platform reseller" for processing.
I believe Square is a bank now, so maybe they'll stop using Chase.
Beware, Gravity screwed over numerous businesses I work with. They purposefully misclassified businesses SICs (a code that defines what very specific category your business is, eg: a bar or a restaurant) to reduce credit card processing fees (interchange fees) for their customers, but were caught doing this for a massive number of businesses.
The card networks and issuing banks that had this money stolen from them went after the businesses that dodged these fees illicitly, with bills of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars for fees that should have been paid.
> Square’s payment APIs are free to integrate into your software. For online sales, the only cost is 2.9% + 30¢ per payment transaction. Sales made with Square’s POS app are charged at our standard fees: 2.6% + 10¢ per swipe, chip card dip, or NFC payment. Manually entered transactions are charged at 3.5% + 15¢.