[_jal]

> where there is no chance for repentance if the err was a cultural thing outside the legal system

So, two thoughts:

- People react to bad actors exactly because there is no other corrective mechanism than shaming.

- I don't know where this notion of "forever pariah" came from. Seems to me nearly every high profile case of someone being "canceled" is actually a more of an "embarrassed pause" - they got called out for being horrible, maybe lost their job, and... are back a year or so later.

Where are the hordes of cancelled people who got a life sentence? Did we start a Misfit Island they're all banished to when I was looking?

[WalterBright]

There's the stock car driver who got his ride cancelled because his father made some bad comments before he was born.

[herbstein]

Who? The NASCAR driver Kyle Larson casually called someone the n-word live on stream at the start of the pandemic, and is back driving full-time again now in 2021. He's by far the highest profile case of a "cancellation" in stock car racing, and he is an example of the "temporary, embarrassed hiatus" claim.

[atvrager]

Conor Daly: https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/motor/2018/08/24/eli-l...

[herbstein]

That's not a cancelled ride tho? It's admittedly a bit weird, but he's still driving in one of the top flights of American motorsport. He hasn't exactly been removed from the sport, as implied by Walter

[WalterBright]

I had thought the sponsorship pull had put him out of business. Glad to see I misremembered the incident. Thanks for the correction.

[handmodel]

I know Louie CK is still making money - but I actually think he would have been integrated back into media better if he got arrested for j^cking off on the street in 2017 and did a weekend in prison than the reality of him j^cking off in an apartment in front of particular females in the 90s.

[alvah]

do there need to be "hordes" before it's a problem? Assuming your Google isn't broken, there are plenty of examples.

[handmodel]

I feel like this is an exact distillation of what I was referring to when I said there is a preference to help those with legal issues accused of things.

There aren't "hordes" of people who have had their life ruined just because there were AP articles written about minor felonies they were accused of.

I think its fine to either be strict on both or forgiving on both, but something about the internal inconsistency really annoys me.