[Sleepytime]

Mozilla is also funded nearly half a billion dollars a year by Google, so that makes three that are controlled directly or indirectly by G.

[nicoburns]

In practice I don't think google exerts much control over Mozilla.

[Sleepytime]

In practice when Mozilla is the only real competition to Chrome and wouldn't exist without Google's funding, it's a conflict of interest regardless.

All it does is make the situation more 'death by a thousand papercuts' than any single standard/extension.

[dfabulich]

> Mozilla is the only real competition to Chrome

Apple is the only real competition to Chrome. Apple has 18% market share, compared to Mozilla's 3%. https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

[Sleepytime]

I don't consider a closed source browser on equal footing. Is there a safari equivalent to chromium?

[corobo]

It still has market share no matter how open or closed it is lmao

[samatman]

Not entirely, but sort of.

https://webkit.org

[marcthe12]

Safari has an open source browser engine which is also used by gtk and gnome(Gnome Web)

[dmitriid]

And the only reason Google sponsors them is to pretend there's competition.

[staunch]

Sure, Mozilla just decided "independently" that building in ad-blocking would not be a competitive advantage vs Chrome.

[nicoburns]

They did independently decide that they'd maintain the extension APIs that allow ublocj origin to work even though Chrome is probably dropping them

[staunch]

And yet they don't make uBlock Origin a pre-installed plugin for 500 million mysterious reasons.

[beebeepka]

As a long time noscript user, I would be pissed if Mozilla were to install an ad blocker on any of my devices.