[eric__cartman]

I'm all for having tuxphones but even a $100 Android phone creams the Pine Phone in every aspect regarding performance. The sad truth is until the soc vendors don't start properly supporting a mainline Linux kernel and offer open source drivers we will be stuck with devices that haven't left the "wow this is cool but I wouldn't use is as my only phone" territory.

[axiolite]

> even a $100 Android phone creams the Pine Phone

That $100 Android phone is going to be carrier locked (subsidized by the carrier) and probably an older model where the R&D has already been paid-off, not an all new device. Once the Pine64 has been out for a few years, it's possible its price will drop to similarly competitive levels.

[fragileone]

Unfortunately this is even less likely in future once Fuschia matures and Google are able to replace the kernel with it on Pixel phones.