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by pavel_lishin 1836 days ago
A lot of meetings are much easier to have in person.

Socializing, as other people pointed out, is also much easier in person.

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Just how close are you trying to be with your co-workers? My parents don't live in the same state with me but we talk weekly on the phone and meet once in a while in person.

If you need hourly contact with your co-workers I hope it's more about doing the job then socializing. If it is about doing the job and your job is software development then are alternatives to endless meetings.

On HN and Reddit people are engaged in the characteristic activity of friendship - discussing topics of mutual interest - yet it would be pretty sad if that’s all someone had for friends.

Similarly, just because you do work with some people, does not make them your team.

Now maybe programming can be organized in a way that doesn’t really require a team. People can get projects done by interacting in a more transactional, contractor/gig-worker way. But that is a very different experience from being part of a team.

On HN and Reddit people are engaged in the characteristic activity of friendship - discussing topics of mutual interest - yet it would be pretty sad if that’s all someone had for friends.

On web forums like HN people post regardless of who might be reading. That's an important difference.

Humans were not made to spend 40+ hours/week not socializing.
The nice thing about "remote work" is you can choose who you want to spend that 40+ hours a week with.
You had 18+ years spending 24/7 with your parents. Also, I'm sure the weekly calls aren't quite enough from their end, they never are for a parent--understandably!
A lot of meetings are also a complete waste of many people's time.
Whenever I get a meeting I don't understand why I was invited to, I just ask whoever invited me, or my boss if customer did, what my purpose is in the meeting.

Almost always I can avoid the full meeting with the understanding that they can call me in if they need my expertise. When that happens it's typically just a couple of questions and I can go back.

Sure some weeks can get a bit busy with meetings if we have a lot of projects going on, but I'm almost never in a meeting where I feel I'm wasting time.

This is something great about video conferencing. Forced to attend a meeting that has no bearing on your work. If you are there in person, banging away on your keyboard the whole time in the corner is considered rude. On video conferencing you can just mute yourself, turn down the volume and just keep your ears perked for your name and keep working.
In Japan it's socially acceptable to fall asleep during meetings.
Probably stating the obvious, but isn't being forced to attend a meeting that has no bearing on one's work is a sign of a pretty significant organisational dysfunction?
it might be but it's still commonplace, and not just in America
Though if there's anything the past few months have demonstrated, online meetings have that same problem.
The solution is fewer, more effective, meetings not forcing people back to face-to-face meetings that should have been an email.