[lordnacho]

Bureaucrats, not engineers. The difference being that bureaucrats are there to pour glue over something to stabilise it, whereas engineers are meant to try new things.

[gibolt]

A company or government reducing quality and effectiveness over time is not stabilization, but erosion of core principles.

Engineering is innovation and maintenance. Bureaucrats slow good change while pushing to cut corners.

[grp000]

I never thought about bureaucrats that way, it makes sense and it's refreshing.

[amelius]

I'd say the difference managers vs dreamers is better. Musk is a dreamer. He is not really an engineer.