[1123581321]

1. Not many comments are like that.

2. Many (most?) users here do more complex programming work than just signup forms.

3. Not everyone has the privilege of being familiar with both ag and programming. Plus, there are a lot of young users here. Today, a few people are learning more about silo safety. What’s impressive about that?

[Semiapies]

I think your exemplifying my point with your third objection is impressive. You're not even recognizing a general principle, but instead responding hey, not everyone knows agriculture can be dangerous or complicated!.

That's basically the pure form of what I'm talking about--the beliefs about many programmers that 1) they are smart, 2) their work is uniquely difficult among all other work, 3) any other work is obvious and simple, and working from those beliefs, 4) that if other people have problems with their work, they must just be too stupid to do the first few things that pop into programmers' heads.

[perl4ever]

Programmers inherently know that doing anything requires a lot of detailed knowledge, because working out how to express it explicitly is their job.

But decent programmers get a lot of reinforcement of the idea that they are entitled to be spoon fed with the details of whatever needs to be worked on. They get treated as machines that can be pointed at any problem in any domain.

I know intuitively why this attitude of entitlement bothers people, but I don't have the right words at the moment.

[1123581321]

I am disagreeing with the general principle. Sorry, I meant to make that clear. I recognize what you’re saying but it’s wrong. I also objected to the dismissal of valid domain expertise in those who perhaps are too specialized in their knowledge.

[Semiapies]

There is no amount of domain expertise that justifies thinking other domains require no expertise.

[1123581321]

Effectively no one here thinks that. Asking a question is not the same as thinking that.

[midasuni]

> Today, a few people are learning more about silo safety. What’s impressive about that?

What’s not impressive?

[1123581321]

I’m always a little amazed, in a good way, how willing people are willing to repeatedly educate others, if that’s what you mean.

If you mean everyone should have read articles about ag safety or experienced it through work or family connections, to the point they’re to be blamed if not, I don’t agree. I’m fortunate enough to have been thoroughly exposed to farming growing up, and it sounds like you were too. Sadly, most people don’t get to have that experience due to population distribution in most industrialized countries, and their formal education and learning for fun may have gone in different directions. Field trips, field internships, WWOOF, 4H, etc. help and it’s important to support those efforts. In the meantime, I find it completely normal that some people learn about silo safety when a silo safety article is posted.

[midasuni]

What’s amazing is that people all over he world are learning about industrial scale grain silo safety issues - despite many never having seen one even in passing.

The internet makes connections and disseminates information like nothing in history, and that’s amazing