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by zdragnar 1838 days ago
Back when I was struggling to develop features in overengineered hell, I commented to my friends what a breath of fresh air updating a personal site with scp was.

They all gave sighs and shudders of disgust, but then again, they had normal programming jobs, so I suppose it seemed quite backwards to them.
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hedora 1838 days ago
Oh, but scp won’t update it atomically, so you should switch to a scheme that will. Then all you need to do is set cache policies correctly, coordinate with your CDN, and maybe do a staged rollout, just in case.

/s

Seriously though, rsync is your friend. :-)

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zimpenfish 1837 days ago
> Seriously though, rsync is your friend. :-)

Even rsync might not be atomic enough for some situations[1] since it'll update files as it goes rather than in one huge transaction at the end.

[1] I worked on the World Cup 2006 site for Yahoo! and we had this issue - solved with 'rsync --link-dest' and swapping symlinks.

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fctorial 1837 days ago
Write a script.

1. stop service 2. copy files 3. start service

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AstralStorm 1837 days ago
Now you have two problems, because for high availability you need a failover or better yet, shadow secondary service.

Hot patching wins, but needs good design to work in the first place.

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tonyedgecombe 1837 days ago
You just need to decide how appropriate that is for your situation.

As an industry I suspect we tend to over-engineer rather than under. There is a huge spectrum between my single person business with a brochure site and what Google or Apple needs. I'm willing to bet most programmers are working closer to the first than the second.

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zimpenfish 1837 days ago
> 1. stop service 2. copy files 3. start service

That assumes you can stop the service which, for many things (like the World Cup website), isn't really possible.

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zdragnar 1837 days ago
You know, I think I might have switched to rsync at one point- I haven't had the site in a few years now, so my memory is a bit hazy.

It was sufficiently small enough (no heavy media files) that I didn't mind if I left some unused files up there. Pretty much the only thing that I had to do was make a copy of the sqlite database each time just in case.

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tonyedgecombe 1837 days ago
--delete-after will delete files on the destination after everything else has synced so you can be sure you aren't linking to a non-existent asset.
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