Can you please ban me? I don't want to be part of this community any more. I appreciate you (you! specifically) holding this place together but it's become one of the most toxic places on the internet for anti-Christian, anti-American and anti-conservative sentiment.
LOL. I wonder what kind of information diet one would have to construct, and how long one would need to adhere to it, to get oneself to a place where they sincerely believe this.
And even if you somehow DID believe that governments never create wealth, you'd need to have also convinced yourself that they can do no good aside from wealth creation. Or possibly that there IS no good aside from wealth creation.
Regardless of what it is, it is a viewpoint totally divorced from reality.
What they never do is "earn." You wouldn't use that verb for money I took under threat of force or imprisonment, right? So why would you use it here? Try "steal," "rob," or, if you're feeling particularly generous, "take."
As for where it's going: Into a hole in the ground? My argument is that governments are inherently inefficient, not that governments shouldn't exist.
Government is emergent. It has to exist. If you see someone having the "Should government exist?" debate they're probably an anarchist in high school. Or an HNer, I guess. It's not a serious intellectual discussion topic. Drop 10 people off on a deserted island and they'll have a government 30 minutes later. There's no "no government."
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https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27461853.