[fghfghfghfghfgh]

Nah, we're not talking past each other but we likely come from wildly different backgrounds.

To make a general statement saying managers are not needed is as silly as saying all developers are delusional

[TchoBeer]

Consider that those two statements may be about in the same wheelhouse, but "developers aren't needed" is way, way more rediculous than "managers aren't needed".

[joshuamorton]

> but "developers aren't needed"

No one ever said this though, I'm not sure what the point of bringing it up is.