[TravisLS]

Counterpoint: a friend in Brooklyn was mugged for only around $10 but almost immediately after ran into street police on patrol. They jumped in the car with him and summoned other local cars to catch the robbers successfully.

The police want to catch the bad guys too, but after 8 hrs has passed, it becomes virtually impossible to succeed.

[filleduchaos]

If we're sharing anecdotes: a former schoolmate, also in NYC, had their phone stolen and was quite literally able to track the phone to the thief's home, but all the police did was take a report.

Hmmm. Maybe the problem is that the police are Luddites.

[donkeyd]

Maybe the problem is that legally, you can't just bust open a door if someone says: "my phone was stolen and is now in this location". Because especially in buildings, the location isn't always accurate, for example. Also, who says the phone was stolen and wasn't planted by the person filing the report? Who says it wasn't found by this person after the person who stole it threw it in some bushes?

Before you can bust down a door, you often need to do a lot of work. People tend to underestimate this greatly. And any hours spent on this one iPhone isn't spent catching rapists (for example). If only the issues were as simple to solve as people commenting here make it seem.

[filleduchaos]

Yes, obviously, the police would need a warrant to actually enter the building.

But there was no attempt to get one, or even just to knock on the door. There was no attempt to do anything apart from record the fact that a crime had (allegedly) occurred. Which, no matter how understandable, is not exactly the pursuit of justice.

> And any hours spent on this one iPhone isn't spent catching rapists (for example).

Okay, so I understand that you have recently taken a job with law enforcement and I can see why you feel the need to defend your workplace but the point remains that objectively speaking, whether one thinks the US police is benevolent or malicious, they don't really do much for the vast majority of property crimes. It's simply not a priority, as you've inadvertently said yourself.

Plus law enforcement...doesn't exactly catch a lot of rapists either.

[exolymph]

> It's simply not a priority, as you've inadvertently said yourself.

That wasn't inadvertent, that was precisely the point they're trying to make to you — resources aren't unlimited and thus need to be triaged.

This would be true even if law enforcement didn't completely suck for orthogonal reasons.

[Arrath]

Given how popular it is to call a SWAT team on someone as a 'prank' I can't say I see too much truth in "Before you can bust down a door, you often need to do a lot of work."

The perceived emergency in the bogus 911 call adds some weight of course, but in lots of cases the Police seem far too gung ho to roll out heavy and bust down some doors. Not to say that it is an appropriate response to go raid a house in search of a reportedly stolen phone, but goddamn.

[spijdar]

As you alluded to, I think telling the cops someone has your phone and telling the cops someone is about to shoot up a bunch of people should get different responses.

Now, I'm not saying cops don't abuse their power nor what response they should give to an "obviously" bogus threat, but even for a trigger happy cop, why bother the risk for someone's phone when there are gonna be hundreds of "credible" threats? I doubt even a crooked cop would be willing to break the rules over someone's stole phone.

[TheBill]

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/nevius/article/Dumb-thie...

Old roommate's company in SF - Car, bikes and computers. Car was stashed in Bayview & cops waited till they had enough backup to lock down the blocks around the house, thieves weren't there unfortunately.

[Mediterraneo10]

> The police want to catch the bad guys too, but after 8 hrs has passed, it becomes virtually impossible to succeed.

There are places around the world with extremely wide rollout of CCTV cameras across the city, where the crime is recorded and police literally could trace a criminal back to his home. Yet even there police are often uninterested in doing more than providing victims of "petty" crime a copy of the police report for insurance purposes.