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by efields 1839 days ago
To the vast majority of the people that use this on the web, they will do care about your story.

I don’t mean that as an insult; I’m happy there are folks like you with passion in this space.

If you’re old enough, you still wake up in the middle of the night sweating about IE 6 or 7 bugs that HAD to be solved with brute force even though the feature worked just fine in Firefox and Chrome. After years of struggle, most of the world uses a very compliant and continuously upgraded browser.

Please… take the win.

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It's not about not taking the win. It's about taking the short term win (by contributing to the monoculture dominance) at the expense of a long term loss -- why expect Google to maintain the Web's current advantages when it no longer serves their purpose to? Especially since the writing is already on the wall.
It was a combo of being a fresh/new dev on my part and IE6/7, but I recall spending (wasting) days and days of my life working around IE issues.

I know we don't want another situation of one browser dominating the web but Chrome (and Firefox) improved building for the web so much. I don't know if people forget or weren't around for the IE days but it was absolutely terrible and a life-waste.

IE also worked great if you "took the win" and wrote exclusively for IE and not for the standard.
Replacing Microsoft Overlord with Google Overlord does not seem like much of a win
This might come as a surprise but not everyone sees the world from a "freedom" perspective. In terms of practical/day to day experience we won something that works over something that didn't.
I agree with you, but think that there are different definitions of freedom. I love open source software but I don't think it's a right or that all software should be OSS. I like the freedom to keep the source of my apps closed if I wish. If I choose to use a closed source browser, I'm not giving up any freedom in my mind, I'm making a choice and a deal.
It's not a "freedom" perspective. Once you get an overlord, it's just a matter of time until it starts abusing you.

Or, in other words, it's just a matter of time until it's Chrome keeping you up at night eating all of your productivity to avoid some defect. It probably won't be a rendering bug, but there will be something there.

IE "worked" too. The main problems came from having to develop for multiple browsers with incompatible implementations. If you restricted yourself to IE, it was quite painless. Any quirk you'd encounter daily was documented, and at the time there were quirks in all implementations anyway.
If you don't look at the world from that freedom perspective, you are simply being shortsighted.
It does not come as a surprise but saddening, because freedom is the most important thing in life

With out freedom life is miserable, and it saddens me that people seem to be valuing freedom less and less, one day they will look around and ask "how did we get here", and people like me will just shrug and say "you should have listened"