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by larrykubin 1839 days ago
If the interview process weren't so exhausting, then it'd probably be easier to get people to switch jobs. Getting a ton of emails lately, but have zero desire to grind leetcode, do take home tests, and interview with 6+ people when I already have a job.
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You make a great point. I have a job, a good manager who's already told me I can work fully remote, or office or a mix of either. The company has decent work life balance and perks. Sure, the work does get a bit boring sometimes and I could try for a bigger paycheck. So, unless the hiring company can offer a substantially large amount of money, flexibility and interesting work, I don't really care to go through their "dance monkey, dance" interview process.

It's like the tides have changed. I want to know what the hiring company is offering to make a switch attractive.

The switch was attractive to me- and made me willing to dance - when my ex employer was unwilling to let me continue to work remote as I had the previous 18 months.

I voiced my opinions on it, changed my life around because of COVID, and they still seemed surprised when I gave them my 2 weeks.

I would have likely stayed if I got the approval to continue to work at home.

I’d say the extra ~10 hours of work over the month for it was worth it. It always is.

This is exactly the problem. For people that have worked a few different roles and seen bad practices/environments and are now relatively happy where they are, why leave?

The US software industry might be at another inflection point where in order to recruit senior roles, salaries have to move up significantly. Sure there are other factors candidates consider but changing tech stack, culture, process, etc. is much harder to do if those things are a problem. In contrast to those things, paying more is easier to do and that is even considering how hard it is to get approvals/budget as well as fairness with existing staff.

Pretty much this. I honestly cannot be bothered to study or prepare to interviews on top of my existing job and life.

If you just send me some test I will refuse to do it. If I have a technical interview with someone, I hope they're truly looking to see how I think instead of if I grind leet code....

It's truly exhausting to apply to companies and do their dance in 2021.

Same. I have a job. When a recruiter says well first do a call, then a take home test, then a live code, then fly in to interview...uh...no. You contacted me, if you did your DD then hire me. I don't have the time, energy, or will to play your games.
Me as well. I absolutely enjoy reading technical books and working on some projects. I feel competent enough to produce good work at any company i go to, but the thought of wasting my weekends away on puzzles is harrowing
Big companies made interviews hard, and because they pay more and the brand name they get the applicant to fill up the position.

Smaller companies followed without being able to compete on TC. Now although some percentage of people go through interview torture every year a really big percentage of my peers and friends don't do that because it is a pain.

Big companies won in keeping the talent for less. Smaller companies lost because they blindly followed.

Same here, talked to some folks but they want me to spend a weekend on a example project before getting into any of the specifics of the job. I don't really want to waste my time to find out I don't even want the job.
Same. I don't really have enough motivation to grind leetcode for weeks on end to be sharp enough to insure I'll do well in these interviews, so I mostly don't bother, even though I'm really overdue to find a new job.

It helps that my current company is 100% remote and has been for three years now, since they got rid of our office before anyone knew there would be a pandemic.

Also now it's looking like most companies are itching to get people back in the office, and I'm not wanting that, in part since it would likely require me to move since I live outside of Chicago.

this!