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by pmoriarty 1836 days ago
"First of all, I am not going to defend soviet concentration camps, USSR has had it's own share of sins. But comparison of Third Reich and USSR is an anti-communist propaganda cliché. For obvious reasons: no jew could become a member of national-socialist party, but anyone could become a communist. So, no matter how disgusting the stalinism was, it cannot be compared to nazism."

Wait, your whole argument for why Stalinism can not be compared to Naziism was that jews could become members of the communist party?

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And the Jews who became members of the Communist Party, even those at the top of it, were still not safe from the anti-semitism of the regime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A1nsk%C3%BD_trial
Not quite.

Stalinism/communism provided you a moral/ideological choice: to be part of it or to oppose it. Although sometimes people who were taking the side of stalinism and were active in whistleblowing and finger pointing in the name of ideological purity were later repressed themselves.

Nazism, on the other hand, gives you no choice if you are a jew. It is already decided for you.

But again, stalinism was awful. I am not going to defend it. I too have some far relatives who died because of it. My grandmother survived thanks to luck. But to compare communism or even stalinism to nazism is wrong.

Not quite.

> Stalinism/communism provided you a moral/ideological choice: to be part of it or to oppose it. Although sometimes people who were taking the side of stalinism and were active in whistleblowing and finger pointing in the name of ideological purity were later repressed themselves.

The point is there them being repressed themselves. Stalin, & Co. were rather indifferent to who was pointing fingers at whom with regards to who goes to GULAG first.

Very often both the "stukach," and his victim were sharing the same train to Magadan.

The irony of course being that the soviet union was no stranger to antisemitism (an heritage that a lot of modern leftist organisations perpetuate).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Uni...