[Isinlor]

When they intentionally deceive. When you promise something without intention of delivering.

In case of SpaceX and Tesla they claim outrageous things with every intention to deliver.

Sometimes they are right, sometimes not. It's up to investors to know the difference.

[cma]

The TED interview gives out strong Elizabeth Holmes signals.

[peteretep]

Right, except SpaceX has put humans in the ISS.