[ChrisMarshallNY]

> Personally i'm boycotting their product and services as much as possible.

Good luck with that.

Turn over pretty much any item in your house, and you’ll see ”Made in China.”

Every single one of our nations has its markets dominated by corporations that have found the only way to compete, is to manufacture in China.

Many nations are now incapable of manufacturing their own goods.

Once you’re a pickle, you’ll never be a cucumber again.

[giantg2]

All it takes is a little research. You can find a US manufacturer for almost anything if you look hard enough. Most people don't want to pay the higher prices that sometimes come with many of the products.

https://www.madeinamerica.co/pages/thelist

[SavantIdiot]

Find me a single electronic device on the planet that isn't made with some Chinese parts. AFAIK all passive electronics components are made in China.

[giantg2]

There's no way the DOD would allow only China to make components that their contracts require. I'm sure there are domestic producers.

Here's a site from a quick search. https://www.tedss.com/LearnMore/American-Made-Capacitors

Here is a site for US built computers with the option to specify US only components. https://usamadeproducts.biz/electronics-computers.html

[SavantIdiot]

You misunderstood my point:

Made in USA != all parts made in the USA. Kinda like how "Made in the USA" cars/trucks are often 90% made overseas then sent to the US for final assembly to earn that sticker.

I'll ignore the fact that the very first link in your computer URL is Apple, which does not have a 100% made in the USA product.

The second computer company in your link is Digital Storm. They use MSI boards which are made in Taiwan and China.

[giantg2]

No, I didn't miss your point. The link I posted has computer manufacturers that say they can use US based components, including in-house engineered parts. I also showed that components are made in the US and that the DOD contracts will require that Chinese parts not be used.

[Finnucane]

I still have things in my house marked ‘made in East/West Germany’. But I am old.

[iso8859-1]

Taiwanese products are also marked as "Made in China". So it's not as bad as you think.

[breckenedge]

Huh, what market are you in? Just yesterday I bought a tool that was “Made in Taiwan” over two “Made in China” alternatives.

[ridaj]

There are items made in China by Taiwan-based companies, which are marked as such, but stuff actually manufactured in Taiwan is marked as made in Taiwan

[ChrisMarshallNY]

Yes, but this still adds to the atrophy of local manufacturing expertise.

This did not start with China. Japan did it after WWII (remember "cheap Japanese"?). Korea did it after Japan.

Now, both Korea and Japan are becoming known for high-quality, pricey stuff.

Many Korean and Japanese corporations manufacture in China, Thailand, and Vietnam.

China is headed that way too, but it may take longer.

[steve_adams_86]

I’ve seen a lot of things marked as made in Taiwan. Look at bike frames and you’ll quickly notice one made there.