[spooneybarger]

in nyc, 30,000 a year will get you an untrained monkey with no skills at all... or someone with no concept at all of what they can get paid.

[kls]

Right I would say that is the same for most of the US. If I had to venture to guess, I would imagine the national average for entry level is around 50-60k and senior developers are north of 100k in most major metros.

[dasil003]

hence the range.