[MauranKilom]

I still have a (fading) scar on my calf from that one time I ran past some tables in a cafe as a toddler. I hold no ill will towards the dog that leapt out from under a table and sunk his jaws into my leg before the owners could even react. But let's be clear that big dog + unfamiliar small child is not about "can you read the tells".

[kodah]

Sure, it doesn't always work that way. Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable. That does not rise to the level of shooting some stray or off-leash dog. I still have puncture marks in my hand from when I dislodged a sucker from my childhood dogs throat and he bit down.

Defending yourself and being a violent person are two different things. The man who shoots any off-leash or stray dog is just violent.

[efraim]

>Dogs are still animals and can be unpredictable.

Which is precisely why they must be on a leash, always. Except in a fenced off area maybe.

[kodah]

There are a lot of places that put on their website or Google maps that they're dog friendly and allow off-leash or on-leash visits. So "always" is not even near correct here, it is on a dog owner (and other visitors) to determine whether the place they're visiting is dog-friendly and to what degree.

[fugfjj]

??? If youre in an off leash park do what ever you want. No one is arguing that.

Im annoyed at the leash-less dogs in parks where dogs aren't even allowed. Although they're the least of my problems, a neighbor has a couple of pet pigs.

[kodah]

I'm guessing you missed the whole point of who I was replying to. They weren't defending anyone or talking about an aggressive dog, they were talking about a dog that walked up to a man and he shot it. That was the example. That is a by definition example of a sociopath, dog owners not putting their stupid dog on a leash is probably irresponsible or selfish, but not sociopathic.

I've already acknowledged there's nuance to the idea of being able to shoot a dog, much like there is to shooting a human. You were so desperate to argue your silly little point about defense that you forgot you, and some of the other folks here, are defending someone who shot a dog for no reason.

That's who you defended and voted for. That's what I was upset about.