[RosanaAnaDana]

Do you have a non-adwalled version of the article?

[brchr]

Oh no, are you getting hit with an adwall? I’m able to open the following links in incognito windows with no trouble:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/opinion/ezra-klein-podcas...?

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/04/podcasts/transcript-ezra-...