[Cthulhu_]

> I am not sure what should be the appropriate reaction or corrective measure in these situations. We should talk more about handling these unfair situations.

Start recording; have them, a big multinational with a massive legal department, admit to violating and stripping a license from source code. Then sue them. They should know better, and they're making billions off of other people's work. That in itself is fair enough, if the license permits it, but removing the license is crossing the line.

[simonh]

Oh it needs to be redressed and some knuckles soundly rapped, maybe someone even fired depending on the situation, but suing is a last, last, last resort. "WARNING: Do not feed the Lawyers".

[jclulow]

Be extremely careful recording conversations without consent in the US.

[apendleton]

Most jurisdictions in the US are one-party-consent. I think the tech crowd tends to have a skewed perception of recording consent rules because California happens to be one of the relatively few two-party-consent states, but it's the exception rather than the rule.

[nix23]

But in most country's you get sued first for illegally recording other peoples, and your proof is nothing worth because it's illegally obtained.

Better make detailed notes, who said what with time and date.

[steego]

Check the laws first. Some places only require one party (you the recorder) to consent.

[nix23]

>Some places only require one party (you the recorder) to consent

Some places...nord Korea? You the recorder have to consent?? I consent to myself that i record others without their knowledge?

[cge]

Laws around recording typically also cover cases where an outside person, who isn't a party in the conversation, is recording. The idea is that there are three possibilities: all parties in the conversation consent to recording, one of the parties consents (almost certainly the person who wants the recording), and none of the parties consent (ie, someone is spying on the conversation). One-party consent is legal in a variety of countries and regions of countries, while zero-party consent is illegal pretty much everywhere I know.

[nix23]

That's not what he said...if everyone consent that's called a interview.

[steego]

Tell me what I said.

[cromulent]

Most of Australia, for example.

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/is-it-legal-to...

[nix23]

Sounds a bit more complicated then what you think it is:

>But the reality is that it is normally against the law to record a phone call without the other person’s consent.

>In fact, ‘covertly’ (secretly) using a listening device such as a mobile phone or digital recorder and publishing or otherwise distributing that material can amount to a criminal offence.

Recording private conversations:

>The laws only apply to ‘private conversations’, which is one where the parties may reasonably assume that they don’t want to be overheard by others.

>One of the exceptions to the prohibition against recording and/or publishing or distributing records of private conversations is where police officers have obtained what’s known as a ‘surveillance device warrant’ – also known as a ‘wire tap’ – which allows for the recorded material to be used for investigations and tendered in court provided, of course, that the material is relevant to the proceedings at hand.

Between jurisdictions:

>It is legal in all jurisdictions to record a phone call if ALL PARTIES to the phone call consent.

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/is-it-legal-to...

But hey if your a Police Officer working on a case your are correct, you don't need the Consent of the other person ;)

[cromulent]

No, it's just as simple as I think it is.

Vic, Qld, NSW, SA, Tas, all OK. That's most of Aus.

[dvlsg]

The majority of the states in the US have one-party consent too, I believe.

[avhon1]

Yep. Here's a list of one-party recording consent states from [1]:

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana*, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming

[1] https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/one-pa...

[nix23]

Yeah but the consent of ONE of the recorded...not the recorder itself right?

[kbelder]

Oregon.

[nix23]

Oregon...Australia...that says everything...