[UI_at_80x24]

I am in the same boat. Looking at getting a new vehicle and Kia is near the top of the list because of warranty. I'd love to hear about personal experiences with the brand.

I've owned GM, Honda, Ford, VW, and Chrysler. I've been very disappointed in all of them.

[avgDev]

My father has 2012 Sonata with a 2.4 Theta II engine, which has failed at 70k miles. Dealer replaced with no fuss and he had a nice loaner for 2 months. Initially, he had to pay for a loaner before dealer inspected it. Hyundai corporate was a pleasure to work with to get his money back.

I bought a 2019 santa fe with the same engine. As these engines are now covered under lifetime warranty. I had 0 problems with the car in the last 2 years, and honestly I am quite amazed with how much of car I got for 34k with 0% financing. I have the highest trim with AWD, which had original MSRP of $39k, so I did get a decent deal.

IMO, hyundai/kia is a great buy, Toyota/Honda used to be a good deal some years ago but right now their cars are overpriced, toyota especially.

Toyota does still retain value quite well. However, carmax offered me $32k for my car, so almost what I paid. This most likely due to the chip shortage so that value would probably be lower normally.

[programmertote]

Thank you for sharing your experience with Hyundai/Kia. I'll definitely keep that in mind when I decide to buy a car in the future (I unfortunately would have to buy one if I were to move to suburb some day...)

[sjg007]

You have to check the model and engine specifics. Kia had a bad run of V4 turbos due to metal shavings in the manufacturing process. I think the electric Hyundai is on recall in South Korea because it overcharges and catches on fire. That is sort of a national scandal over there as far as I can tell which will probably lead to positive changes in their manufacturing processes. It also took a lot of hassle of those V4 Kia owners to get warranty coverage.

That being said the V6 lambda engines are very nice and considered reliable. They started with the Genesis which was an important flagship vehicle. I have a V6 and have had no issues approaching 100k. But I am the type of person that wants to get 200k out of my vehicles, I have no idea if that will happen. I'd be upset if the car failed before 10 years as well.

There are forums where you can get an idea, especially if you look at previous model years.

[frogblast]

I have a 2 year old Niro EV with 20K miles. It is a fantastic little car, no issues or defects with it all so far. The dealership experience sucked, but that’s not the car’s fault.