[stu2b50]

No one buys a ring doorbell for the express purpose of being closer to Bezos or something. They do it because they want to be able to answer their door remotely - that it's on Amazon's server is a side effect of both not caring enough and not knowing how to host it locally.

[ysavir]

> that it's on Amazon's server is a side effect of both not caring enough and not knowing how to host it locally.

Those situations happen, but I they're actually a significant minority. For most, how these things work is completely magic. It's not that they don't care, it's that they have no knowledge of how the tool works. They know that they press a button on their phone and their door unlocks, and so are satisfied that it works as intended. That there is anything more to consider isn't on their radar.

[prower]

Convenience at the cost of _literally-everything-else_ is a trend we should maybe start to counter with more determination.

[asdff]

What's hilarious about these ring/nest/etc products is you can find competent competitors, right on amazon, for like 1/5 the price.

[dagw]

you can find competent competitors, right on amazon, for like 1/5 the price.

Unfortunately they are buried among 50 other completely incompetent competitors which are complete insecure garbage.

[coolspot]

> competent competitors

Are you saying there are end-to-end encrypted home surveillance cameras for 1/5 of the price?

Or that there are cheap cameras uploading your videos to some shady server?