[KozmoNau7]

I have a hard time taking your recommendation seriously, unless you have never heard a good set of speakers in person.

A pair of JBL 305P MkIIs will absolutely wipe the floor with discount speakers like those, with such a huge margin, that it's not even remotely fair.

$300 for a pair, certain a lot less than 100x price difference.

[Gauge_Irrahphe]

You have not heard those, they absolutely do sound more precise than cheap studio monitors. I think they may actually be flat with both bass and treble all the way down, but then they just don't sound like loudspeakers at all.

[KozmoNau7]

I have a very hard time believing that, especially considering the absolutely miniscule woofers, no tweeters and tiny cabinets. The marketing focuses mostly on "cool led lights" and "fashion design". Claiming that they sound better than studio monitors is an extraordinary claim, and there doesn't seem to be any sort of reviews available, and the only videos on Youtube are from people who bought them and basically go "yes, these make sound". Not a single actual review.

The JBLs are some of the most well-regarded studio monitors, routinely besting competitors at four times the price. They are JBL's crowning achievement in sheer performance per dollar, no joke.

I can only conclude that you have literally never heard a decent set of speakers in your life, or you're wasting everyone's time with an extremely low-effort troll.

[Gauge_Irrahphe]

I understand your disbelief. I was also in disbelief as I expected the speakers to be a joke and wouldn't believe it if I didn't hear it myself. But they are as much above cheap studio monitors as the monitors are above regular hifi speakers. I guess there is some DSP magic at play, but they realy sound that good. Really the only way we could resolve this issue is that you waste $30 and listen for yourself.

[KozmoNau7]

No, you can't change the laws of physics, especially not with miniscule cabinets, a single 3" woofer, two 1.5" midrange drivers and a paltry ~10W of total amplification. It simply isn't physically possible, no matter how much DSP "magic" you throw at it.

If you're genuinely serious and believe these tiny speakers are truly amazing, please do spend the $30 yourself and send a set to Amir at audiosciencereview.com, so he can put them through the same set of tests and measurements that he uses for HiFi speakers and studio monitors. He doesn't mince words, he will rip apart manufacturer claims if they don't deliver on them, even if they're a well-regarded brand.

[Gauge_Irrahphe]

It can reduce the distortion which is what really matters more than frequency balance. The problem as I understand it is the equal loudness curves. The bass itself may be perceived possibly tens of dB quieter in relation to the distortion which occurs an octave or more above the original frequency, so that the perceived distortion is amplified. The measurement should be multiplied by the loudness curves, which shows the trully horrible distortion at bass, which pollutes the sound way up into the mids. Even at that site you can read statements like "below 100Hz, 10% [harmonic distortion] is OK", which just isn't true.

All I can see is that he lives in Seattle, and I don't really care that much.

[KozmoNau7]

I'd love to see the sources you base your claims on, since you seem to disagree with respected professionals like Floyd Toole and Sean Olive, as well as every sound engineer employed by pro audio companies. Extensive research and listening tests have shown that a linear frequency response with a slight roll-off towards high frequencies and a slight low-frequency boost, combined with even dispersion and low distortion is preferred by the vast majority of listeners. You need all of the elements together, in order to achieve a pleasing presentation. This is the groundwork and design philosphy of a speaker like the JBL 305P MkII, and it works, based on solid repeatable science.

Please provide your research or the sources you base your conclusions on.

You cannot get low-distortion bass at any usable volume out of a 3" speaker in a small cabinet, no matter how much DSP trickery you add, it is physically impossible. The driver simply doesn't have enough membrane area nor excursion to move the required amount of air. On top of this, the type of DSP tricks you are proposing require significant additional amplifier power and heavy-duty speaker drivers that can withstand it. Even then, what you're going to get is massive amounts of distortion, especially as the driver tries to reproduce anything under 150Hz at any sort of volume.

From my experience in hifi and electronics, what they're probably doing is using an off-the-shelf BT+amplifier module, with standard low-power amplifier modules. On top of this there is probably some standard EQ and maybe a "bass enhancer" module of the sort that generates overtones based on low bass frequencies, which uses the "missing fundamental" principle to fool the ear into perceiving bass that is too deep for the speaker to actually reproduce. Some bluetooth speakers make good use of this trick, but it is very much adding a bunch distortion in order to fool your ears.

I'm glad you like your speakers, but you are utterly delusional if you think they offer sound quality that is even on the same planet as a decent set of studio monitors.

[brokenmachine]

Maybe they have MQA in them though. That changes everything. /s

[brokenmachine]

I don't believe you. Measure them.