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by gadf 1841 days ago
Dudette if you're going to spend such time on an answer, at least look at the evidence closely.

Ice???? They were seeing and tracking levitating and maneuvering swarms of ice tic tacs for month visually and on radar. Are you sure? This is nuts.

3 is false. It clearly went nose toward him, then started matching his spiral down with a spiral up.

1 is false. It didn't disintegrate at ocean surface, it vanished after spiraling up toward him and jamming radar.

Then reappeared later at the designated rendezvous point.

Maybe it is made of ice. But that's smart, intelligence, possibly alien ice with advanced propulsion. So you didn't really prove anything with the ridiculous ice claim. Please do better.

I accept that the FLIR locks jumps might contribute to perceived movement. Fair enough. But USS Omaha tracking these things vectoring on radar is not an artefact.

- incapable of using cell phone cameras while on board a ship, even at the highest levels where rules against cell phones could be overridden, and

This is false. There are videos released from Navy aviators recorded using cell phones.

I agree with you that quality of video is pathetic. But it's good enough I suppose to bring us all here today to argue about it which is pretty sad I guess

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>They were seeing and tracking levitating and maneuvering swarms of ice tic tacs for month visually and on radar.

That's not what he said on Lex Fridman podcast. It was more like days. But that is according to the radar which was created by his buddy who could have been trolling him knowing he was going to be in the area.

>3 is false. It clearly went nose toward him, then started matching his spiral down with a spiral up.

I think the nose and the spiral are details you added. I think it "came up" in the same sense that someone might say "the ground came up to meet me" when they describe the perception they might have when landing with a parachute or when diving steeply in an airplane. Not necessarily that it was flying upward.

His perception may very well have been that it was flying upward. But again, he has zero experience with whatever this was, and his brain is used to seeing flying, powered, maneuvering objects, so his brain is fitting the data it sees to that preconceived experience, and not thinking about a falling slab of ice. So in this way his experience was actually working against him understanding what he was seeing.

>1 is false. It didn't disintegrate at ocean surface, it vanished after spiraling up toward him and jamming radar.

I never said it was at the surface though. Yes it vanished, we all agree on that. Can't speak to the jamming but I don't recall him mentioning that. In any case it could have been his radar buddy trolling him, I don't see any reason not to keep that possibility in play.

>Then reappeared later at the designated rendezvous point.

His good buddy who went to his wedding was trolling him. Or the radar operator was in on it and also trolling him.

>There are videos released from Navy aviators recorded using cell phones.

There was a series of incidents last summer (2020) with supposedly 3 days of drone sightings.

Not one video. (If you disagree, please provide links.)

They even anticipated more sightings on day 3 and intentionally, deliberately, with planning, brought in a camera crew with, inexplicably, a single camera apparently and what did they film? They pointed the camera down onto the radar screen while they claim the things were buzzing the ships outside. The resulting footage is so fuzzy you can't even make out the text on the radar screen.

While this was going on for three nights, we are to believe that not one single navy person walked outside on the deck or looked through a porthole and took even one single video of the drones that were swarming the ship… or, if they did, their discipline is so good that none of the videos have ever been posted.

Color me skeptical.